1. If Maliki and Allawi came to a deal, then we may see progress on government formation this week
2. The budget is not needed for the RV
3. The funds to cover for the RV have been set aside
4. If they decided to change the original agreement, they made some sort of deal
5. The US might set a time limit for cash in. He was told it may be within 2 years
6. Night strongly suggest you cash in the moment you know about the RV
7. Night was told Iraq is demanding of the IMF to support a rate over $3
8. He doesn't know if they can support that high of a value
9. Night is thinking the rate may be $3.10 - $3.30
10. The information relayed to him indicates that there have been heated discussions among the Iraqi elite concerning the rate
11. Both Allawi and Maliki want the higher rate
12. Iraq does have the assets to support the 3 rate--especially with the new found natural gas deposits
13. Night thinks that once they put the Dinar out, it will be stable
14. It may drop a few cents or points, but should go back up until it reaches the ceiling they have set and then remain there
15. Iraq cannot move forward unless the Dinar is on the market and its value is stable
16. The only place a time limit may apply is in Iraq
17. They don't want 30 million new millionaires inside the country
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1:0Maliki and Allawi met and what the resulkts were yet?
1:02 PM [******]
1:03 PM [******] didn't we hear they met and had come to an agreement
1:03 PM [******] or was that in a rumor?
1:03 PM [******] I heard they met and had the second reading
1:03 PM [Nighthk11] If they did and came to a deal then we may see progress on gov't formation this week
1:04 PM [******] yes in parliament second reading on budget
1:04 PM [******] Oh Night..from your lips to God's ears!!
1:04 PM [******] that is what I heard night , hope it is true
1:04 PM [Nighthk11] While the budget is very important- It is not needed for an RV to occur
1:04 PM [******] I surely hope so
1:05 PM [Nighthk11] The funds to cover the RV have already been set aside
1:05 PM [******] no I heard there was an agreement night and I hope it is true
1:05 PM [******] http://dinarvets.doobla.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21498
1:05 PM [******] that also is very reassuring to hear Night
1:05 PM [Nighthk11] It only pertains to inside Iraq because Dinar we hold will be stored in the Fed Reserve
1:06 PM [******] true
1:06 PM [******] maliki, allawi reversed urgent resolutions to erbil
1:07 PM [Nighthk11] Sounds like they decided to "Change" the original agreement- If so, Then I think they made some sort of deal
1:07 PM [******] that is something hubby and I talked about , so we were saying there would be no reason to have a time limit on cash in here since it will not be going back to Iraq but staying here in the usa
1:07 PM [******] Nighthk11 my understanding the Fed will only get what goes thru banks..... traders goes back to Iraq
1:07 PM [******] Hello Nighthk11 ****** ****** ******. Great to see ****** and night here. I guess now we will have some ****** Nights in here.
1:07 PM [******]
1:07 PM [******] ty
1:07 PM [******] and some weather announcemnts
1:07 PM [Nighthk11] Correct ******- But US may set a "Time Limit"- I was told it may be within two years
1:08 PM [******] oh well that would be great
1:08 PM [******] thanks night i thought so too
1:08 PM [******] about the agreement
1:08 PM [Nighthk11] At any length- I would strongl;y suggest that the momenmt we know the dinar is international- Cash Out
1:09 PM [******] that is what i am doing Nighthk11 not holding any back
1:09 PM [******] I plan on cashing in most of mine asap
1:09 PM [Nighthk11] Because of the uncertainty of Iraq
1:09 PM [******] that sounds GREAT! from what that article says, it sounds as if the SFC ruling isn't going to stand Night as you had said it would not
1:09 PM [******] that is true
1:10 PM [******] I will make sure I have what I need to be good for the rest of my life asap
1:10 PM [******] but I am 60 so won't need to worry
1:11 PM [******] I need some time to set-up investment plans--foundation and trust accounts, etc. and get some precious metals investments going but other than the time required to do those things, I plan to be out of the dinars ASAp
1:11 PM [******] Good Morning/Afternoon all!!!
1:11 PM [******] gm
1:12 PM [******] Good afternoon *****
1:12 PM [Nighthk11] Now- I have always stated that the dinar will be over $1.00 and have been told they are demanding of the IMF to support the "Golden Dinar" which was over $3.00- I do NOT know if they can support that high a value
1:12 PM [******] ****** it is good to see you here
1:12 PM [******] g afternoon
1:12 PM [******]
1:12 PM [Nighthk11] But they are trying
1:12 PM [******] ty
1:12 PM [******] Nighthk11 do you have a specific idea on the rate?
1:13 PM [******] if it were to come in over $3.00 that would be wonderful as for my spouse and myself..this will constitute our retirement
1:13 PM [******] so you all remember groovgal
1:13 PM [Nighthk11] At this point I know it's over 10 cents so it will be just fine with what they finally come out with
1:13 PM [******] sure
1:13 PM [******] of course we remember GG
1:13 PM [******] ****** yes
1:13 PM [******] she always said they could sustand a 3+ rate
1:13 PM [Nighthk11] I am thinking around $3.10-3,30 no more than that - I could be WRONG
1:13 PM [******] if I am not mistaken
1:13 PM [******] yes she did
1:14 PM [******] yes, she did and explained why, ******
1:14 PM [******]
1:14 PM [******] I'm not sure if that post is still here
1:14 PM [******] Nighthk11 you are allowed ot be wrong in here
1:14 PM [******] oh absolutely
1:14 PM [Nighthk11] It is a strong possibility- That is why I say "Many will be surprised- But all will be satisfied"
1:14 PM [******] we all know any rates at this time are our own guess at what it could be
1:15 PM [******] don't worry about that---we all welcome all speculation
1:15 PM [******] ******, you look so cute in your party hat
1:15 PM [******] sorry - you are allowed to be wrong in here - wanted to clarify
1:15 PM [******] but I sure hope it does come in at 3 because there are alot of people that , it would really change their lives for the better
1:15 PM [******] and we welcome any factual info as well--but we won't hold you responsible Night if things change..after all. Iraq is..well Iraq
1:15 PM [******] rw why thank you kind sir!
1:15 PM [******] RW!!!!!!
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] The information related to me indicates that there have been some heated discussions among the Iraqi elite concerning this rate- Both Maliki and Allawi want this
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] But that does NOT mean the IMF will go along with this- we shall see
1:16 PM [******] ****** !!!
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] They both want the Golden Dinar- Over $3.00
1:16 PM [******] kels he said they both want it 3
1:17 PM [******] streaker preacher in the HOUSE!!!
1:17 PM [******] sorry night
1:17 PM [******] the imf and other countries need to be repaid by iraq so it can't be too low
1:17 PM [******]
1:17 PM [******] Nighthk11 i get it now... sorry about that
1:17 PM [******] that would be awesome
1:17 PM [******] yeah I would htink the IMF needs it higher more than lower
1:17 PM [******] but fear may keep it down
1:17 PM [******] although we have heard night that where the IMF is concerned that their primary concern is that whatever rate is used be easily sutainable by iraq's assets
1:17 PM [******] I"m happy with 50 cents
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Right now it is a matter of speculation because the information cannot be confirmed- But it has been discussed- so we will see
1:18 PM [******] Amen, bro
1:18 PM [******] i have always been a $2.50 lady myself
1:18 PM [******] as we all would kels
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Iraq does have the assets to support this rate
1:18 PM [******] And those assets are about to explode further
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Especially with the New found natujral gas deposits located
1:19 PM [******] that is what groovgal always said ,
1:19 PM [******] that is very reassuring Night
1:19 PM [******] i believe shabs will have a lot of input on the final rate alsol
1:19 PM [******] but is there any global currency that is supported by assets?
1:19 PM [******] nice pun kelsguy
1:19 PM [******] you also have to take into consideration that the ICI donar nations are not being able to give the alloted pledges initially negotiated because of the global economy ....so this also entails that iraq needs the higher rate for the recon projects on their plates to pay for this
1:19 PM [Nighthk11] along with New wells of oil located in the western desert between Iraq and Jordan
1:19 PM [******] ****** glad you caught that
1:20 PM [******] also mdb the euro needs support to strength and the world needs a higher rate for global financial recovery
1:20 PM [******] They just need a government that supports a good rate and a healthy economy
1:20 PM [******] ****** excellent point
1:20 PM [Nighthk11] If they do- then I would strongly suggest you cash out at the first opportunity when it hits the market
1:20 PM [******] ty *****
1:21 PM [Nighthk11] Yes ******- they can go nowhere without that
1:21 PM [******] the only reason I ask is that they can "pick" a value rather than having to support a value
1:21 PM [******] the me is a tenderbox right now
1:21 PM [******] yes its true.....i used to be in the camp of around the euro.....but now that ive had the opportunity to consult with many others and people who i trust and respect who do have legitimate contacts....I am now in the 3 camp
1:21 PM [******] Night do you feel that it may be critical to cash out in days..or would taking a few weeks to get structures in place be safe?
1:21 PM [******] I think the swiss money is backed with gold still
1:22 PM [Nighthk11] Yes and I can assure you that Iraq is paying attention- Egypt is NOT letting up
1:22 PM [******] but I understand that is the only one , am I correct?
1:22 PM [******] don't we have the greatest chats??????????
1:22 PM [******] ****** i like the way you talk!
1:22 PM [******] kels tytyty hehe
1:22 PM [Nighthk11] Correct ******- they make their money by being a bank for other countries and people
1:23 PM [******] ***** OUT!!! gotta meeting... bbl
1:23 PM [******] ttyl *****
1:23 PM [******] is this being copied?
1:23 PM [******] don't know ******
1:23 PM [******] k ty
1:23 PM [******] ****** is away it seems
1:24 PM [******] mk is probably working today
1:24 PM [******] I believe the President of Egypt step down today per Fox News
1:24 PM [******] really
1:24 PM [******] my concern is if we would safely have enough time to fly back and forth and get our financial ducks in a row---hopefully bartering dinars into gold etc..which would take some time If that were not a safe option: then we would need to cash out all in and then work on gold foundations and trusts etc over time
1:24 PM [******] ****** i saw on a private site the only day that the military will take over in egypt
1:25 PM [******] ok bbiab
1:25 PM [Nighthk11] Yes but according to some- He will never step down- Maliki better be watching
1:25 PM [******] that is what I heard night
1:25 PM [******] I think it was on npr radio
1:25 PM [******] that he would never step down
1:25 PM [******] ****** i would think we have 90 to 120 days.
1:26 PM [******] was someone on there that knew him talking
1:26 PM [******] Night so you think rate will be stable once established or will it potentially float or have possibility of changing within hours or days?
1:26 PM [******] ****** thanks for your input hun
1:26 PM [Nighthk11] After 30 years in power- the people are still poor- the issues are almost identical for Iraq which has more wealth- So why then would the Iraqi people NOT be empowered to tak back their country?
1:27 PM [******] yw
1:27 PM [******] well Iraq is iraq ****** how much do you trust them
1:27 PM [******] well ******--not very much
1:27 PM [******] them getting all this done and getting along is the exception to the rule over there
1:27 PM [******] do you think it will last??
1:28 PM [******] maybe for a while , maybe not
1:28 PM [******] is just we won't have things set-up in advance because we are too cash poor right now to set anything up
1:28 PM [Nighthk11] I think that once they put the dinar out- It will initially be stable- with re-construction beginning in earnest and contracts being honored- It may drop a few cents or points- Then go back up until it reaches the ceiling they have set then remain there
1:28 PM [******] I am hoping there will be enough time to set things up the smart way once Rv hits...not have to rush rush things
1:29 PM [******] well I will cash in at the bank
1:29 PM [Nighthk11] But make no mistake and do not have any worry- They cannot move forward unless the dinar is on the market and it's value is stable
1:29 PM [******] then worry about buying gold or whatever
1:29 PM [******] I will pay the taxes on it then go from there
1:29 PM [******] then I won't have to be in a hurry to decide how to invest it
1:30 PM [******] I agree night
1:30 PM [Nighthk11] I am hoping that that happens this month and I see no reason given a deal being made to complete the gov't and the council- that this should not happen
1:30 PM [******] true---is just it is nice to have time to work with getting things set-up is all...
1:31 PM [******] you are a worryier
1:31 PM [Nighthk11] I think you will have both the time and help needed to accomplish what you want to do
1:31 PM [******]
1:31 PM [******] it will be a crazy crazy and highly emotional time for everyone
1:31 PM [******] oh dear just got an update from a business contact in oklahoma, they are going home to work. worried about roads already
1:31 PM [******] it is all good my friend breathe
1:31 PM [Nighthk11] BOA will help you with financial counselors
1:32 PM [******] Thank you Night for coming to this site and giving chats
1:32 PM [******] you are appeciated night
1:32 PM [******] that is true night--but we will be working with International Financial advisors
1:32 PM [Nighthk11] YW needed a home since I got kicked to the curb
1:32 PM [******] maybe not there but here you are
1:32 PM [******] there is a big crowd on that curb!
1:33 PM [******] Thanks nighthk, much appreciated!
1:33 PM [Nighthk11] Oh I see- then I would not worry about time- I think you will be just fine
1:33 PM [******] probably won't be cashing in at a bank except for money to pay off existing debt in the US--and perhaps having enough $$ set aside for living expenses for 6 months
1:33 PM [Nighthk11] Yes I see- and I think you will be just fine with your plans
1:35 PM [Nighthk11] I think the only place a time limit will apply will be inside Iraq as they want the large bills turned in
1:35 PM [Nighthk11] They don't want 30 million new millionares inside the country
1:35 PM [******] hubby and I are planning on relocating to New Zealand for retirement
1:35 PM [******] night did you say we might have 2 years?
1:36 PM [Nighthk11] Yes- 2 years- that is what Iraq has stated to recover all the large denoms
1:36 PM [******] we may amintain a second home in teh US...we may not
1:37 PM [Nighthk11] Our dinar will be turned in to the fed for holding in foreign currency reserves
1:37 PM [******] That may not apply to US citizens, or do you think, so?
1:37 PM [******] i do know this much. large international corporations with funding and good revenue are starting to look around at investments so they must know something is coming.
1:38 PM [******] up till now it has been hold the cash
1:38 PM [Nighthk11] US may set a "Time Limit" within our borders for the dinar but I can't see why
1:39 PM [******] we have most of the investment people we plan on working with chosen and have spoken with them etc.
1:39 PM [******] Unless they can get our dinar at a lower rate and allow it to appreciate over time in their own reserves
1:39 PM [******] ****** I don't really worry--so much as plan
1:40 PM [Nighthk11] The speed at which this is done will depend largely on the "Deal" made and the gov't formation so that Shabibi can act
1:40 PM [******] I don't like making decision quickly "on the fly"
"
1:41 PM [******] my hubby si worse than I am
1:41 PM [******] he won't purchase anything without first considering all 15 options
1:41 PM [******] Night ( in your opinion ) how long could it take for the RV to happen?
1:42 PM [******] heya ER <hugs> been a long time!!
1:42 PM [******] hey ******
1:42 PM [******] ive been here...just lurking
1:42 PM [******] i dont come on as much
1:42 PM [******] ahh OK
1:43 PM [******] Night what time window..realistically--do you think we may be looking at before Rv actually happens....(we know this is not an easy question to answer--just wondering what your opinion is?)
1:44 PM [******] I know its can happen any second.....
1:44 PM [******] it
1:45 PM [******] but... i was just wondering how much longer they can really hold out
1:47 PM [******] would someone please post Night's chat when he is done I missed half of it Please please
1:48 PM [******] shorty--I hope someone has been recording it--****** is not here I do not think
1:48 PM [******] also night what is maliki currently doing about the security files?
1:48 PM [******] i'll wait in line.
1:48 PM [******]
1:02 PM [Nighthk11] Does anyonme know if Maliki and Allawi met and what the resulkts were yet?
1:02 PM [******]
1:03 PM [******] didn't we hear they met and had come to an agreement
1:03 PM [******] or was that in a rumor?
1:03 PM [******] I heard they met and had the second reading
1:03 PM [Nighthk11] If they did and came to a deal then we may see progress on gov't formation this week
1:04 PM [******] yes in parliament second reading on budget
1:04 PM [******] Oh Night..from your lips to God's ears!!
1:04 PM [******] that is what I heard night , hope it is true
1:04 PM [Nighthk11] While the budget is very important- It is not needed for an RV to occur
1:04 PM [******] I surely hope so
1:05 PM [Nighthk11] The funds to cover the RV have already been set aside
1:05 PM [******] no I heard there was an agreement night and I hope it is true
1:05 PM [******] http://dinarvets.doobla.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21498
1:05 PM [******] that also is very reassuring to hear Night
1:05 PM [Nighthk11] It only pertains to inside Iraq because Dinar we hold will be stored in the Fed Reserve
1:06 PM [******] true
1:06 PM [******] maliki, allawi reversed urgent resolutions to erbil
1:07 PM [Nighthk11] Sounds like they decided to "Change" the original agreement- If so, Then I think they made some sort of deal
1:07 PM [******] that is something hubby and I talked about , so we were saying there would be no reason to have a time limit on cash in here since it will not be going back to Iraq but staying here in the usa
1:07 PM [******] Nighthk11 my understanding the Fed will only get what goes thru banks..... traders goes back to Iraq
1:07 PM [******] Hello Nighthk11 ****** ****** ******. Great to see ****** and night here. I guess now we will have some ****** Nights in here.
1:07 PM [******]
1:07 PM [******] ty
1:07 PM [******] and some weather announcemnts
1:07 PM [Nighthk11] Correct ******- But US may set a "Time Limit"- I was told it may be within two years
1:08 PM [******] oh well that would be great
1:08 PM [******] thanks night i thought so too
1:08 PM [******] about the agreement
1:08 PM [Nighthk11] At any length- I would strongl;y suggest that the momenmt we know the dinar is international- Cash Out
1:09 PM [******] that is what i am doing Nighthk11 not holding any back
1:09 PM [******] I plan on cashing in most of mine asap
1:09 PM [Nighthk11] Because of the uncertainty of Iraq
1:09 PM [******] that sounds GREAT! from what that article says, it sounds as if the SFC ruling isn't going to stand Night as you had said it would not
1:09 PM [******] that is true
1:10 PM [******] I will make sure I have what I need to be good for the rest of my life asap
1:10 PM [******] but I am 60 so won't need to worry
1:11 PM [******] I need some time to set-up investment plans--foundation and trust accounts, etc. and get some precious metals investments going but other than the time required to do those things, I plan to be out of the dinars ASAp
1:11 PM [******] Good Morning/Afternoon all!!!
1:11 PM [******] gm
1:12 PM [******] Good afternoon *****
1:12 PM [Nighthk11] Now- I have always stated that the dinar will be over $1.00 and have been told they are demanding of the IMF to support the "Golden Dinar" which was over $3.00- I do NOT know if they can support that high a value
1:12 PM [******] ****** it is good to see you here
1:12 PM [******] g afternoon
1:12 PM [******]
1:12 PM [Nighthk11] But they are trying
1:12 PM [******] ty
1:12 PM [******] Nighthk11 do you have a specific idea on the rate?
1:13 PM [******] if it were to come in over $3.00 that would be wonderful as for my spouse and myself..this will constitute our retirement
1:13 PM [******] so you all remember groovgal
1:13 PM [Nighthk11] At this point I know it's over 10 cents so it will be just fine with what they finally come out with
1:13 PM [******] sure
1:13 PM [******] of course we remember GG
1:13 PM [******] ****** yes
1:13 PM [******] she always said they could sustand a 3+ rate
1:13 PM [Nighthk11] I am thinking around $3.10-3,30 no more than that - I could be WRONG
1:13 PM [******] if I am not mistaken
1:13 PM [******] yes she did
1:14 PM [******] yes, she did and explained why, ******
1:14 PM [******]
1:14 PM [******] I'm not sure if that post is still here
1:14 PM [******] Nighthk11 you are allowed ot be wrong in here
1:14 PM [******] oh absolutely
1:14 PM [Nighthk11] It is a strong possibility- That is why I say "Many will be surprised- But all will be satisfied"
1:14 PM [******] we all know any rates at this time are our own guess at what it could be
1:15 PM [******] don't worry about that---we all welcome all speculation
1:15 PM [******] ******, you look so cute in your party hat
1:15 PM [******] sorry - you are allowed to be wrong in here - wanted to clarify
1:15 PM [******] but I sure hope it does come in at 3 because there are alot of people that , it would really change their lives for the better
1:15 PM [******] and we welcome any factual info as well--but we won't hold you responsible Night if things change..after all. Iraq is..well Iraq
1:15 PM [******] rw why thank you kind sir!
1:15 PM [******] RW!!!!!!
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] The information related to me indicates that there have been some heated discussions among the Iraqi elite concerning this rate- Both Maliki and Allawi want this
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] But that does NOT mean the IMF will go along with this- we shall see
1:16 PM [******] ****** !!!
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] They both want the Golden Dinar- Over $3.00
1:16 PM [******] kels he said they both want it 3
1:17 PM [******] streaker preacher in the HOUSE!!!
1:17 PM [******] sorry night
1:17 PM [******] the imf and other countries need to be repaid by iraq so it can't be too low
1:17 PM [******]
1:17 PM [******] Nighthk11 i get it now... sorry about that
1:17 PM [******] that would be awesome
1:17 PM [******] yeah I would htink the IMF needs it higher more than lower
1:17 PM [******] but fear may keep it down
1:17 PM [******] although we have heard night that where the IMF is concerned that their primary concern is that whatever rate is used be easily sutainable by iraq's assets
1:17 PM [******] I"m happy with 50 cents
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Right now it is a matter of speculation because the information cannot be confirmed- But it has been discussed- so we will see
1:18 PM [******] Amen, bro
1:18 PM [******] i have always been a $2.50 lady myself
1:18 PM [******] as we all would kels
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Iraq does have the assets to support this rate
1:18 PM [******] And those assets are about to explode further
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Especially with the New found natujral gas deposits located
1:19 PM [******] that is what groovgal always said ,
1:19 PM [******] that is very reassuring Night
1:19 PM [******] i believe shabs will have a lot of input on the final rate alsol
1:19 PM [******] but is there any global currency that is supported by assets?
1:19 PM [******] nice pun kelsguy
1:19 PM [******] you also have to take into consideration that the ICI donar nations are not being able to give the alloted pledges initially negotiated because of the global economy ....so this also entails that iraq needs the higher rate for the recon projects on their plates to pay for this
1:19 PM [Nighthk11] along with New wells of oil located in the western desert between Iraq and Jordan
1:19 PM [******] ****** glad you caught that
1:20 PM [******] also mdb the euro needs support to strength and the world needs a higher rate for global financial recovery
1:20 PM [******] They just need a government that supports a good rate and a healthy economy
1:20 PM [******] ****** excellent point
1:20 PM [Nighthk11] If they do- then I would strongly suggest you cash out at the first opportunity when it hits the market
1:20 PM [******] ty *****
1:21 PM [Nighthk11] Yes ******- they can go nowhere without that
1:21 PM [******] the only reason I ask is that they can "pick" a value rather than having to support a value
1:21 PM [******] the me is a tenderbox right now
1:21 PM [******] yes its true.....i used to be in the camp of around the euro.....but now that ive had the opportunity to consult with many others and people who i trust and respect who do have legitimate contacts....I am now in the 3 camp
1:21 PM [******] Night do you feel that it may be critical to cash out in days..or would taking a few weeks to get structures in place be safe?
1:21 PM [******] I think the swiss money is backed with gold still
1:22 PM [Nighthk11] Yes and I can assure you that Iraq is paying attention- Egypt is NOT letting up
1:22 PM [******] but I understand that is the only one , am I correct?
1:22 PM [******] don't we have the greatest chats??????????
1:22 PM [******] ****** i like the way you talk!
1:22 PM [******] kels tytyty hehe
1:22 PM [Nighthk11] Correct ******- they make their money by being a bank for other countries and people
1:23 PM [******] ***** OUT!!! gotta meeting... bbl
1:23 PM [******] ttyl *****
1:23 PM [******] is this being copied?
1:23 PM [******] don't know ******
1:23 PM [******] k ty
1:23 PM [******] ****** is away it seems
1:24 PM [******] mk is probably working today
1:24 PM [******] I believe the President of Egypt step down today per Fox News
1:24 PM [******] really
1:24 PM [******] my concern is if we would safely have enough time to fly back and forth and get our financial ducks in a row---hopefully bartering dinars into gold etc..which would take some time If that were not a safe option: then we would need to cash out all in and then work on gold foundations and trusts etc over time
1:24 PM [******] ****** i saw on a private site the only day that the military will take over in egypt
1:25 PM [******] ok bbiab
1:25 PM [Nighthk11] Yes but according to some- He will never step down- Maliki better be watching
1:25 PM [******] that is what I heard night
1:25 PM [******] I think it was on npr radio
1:25 PM [******] that he would never step down
1:25 PM [******] ****** i would think we have 90 to 120 days.
1:26 PM [******] was someone on there that knew him talking
1:26 PM [******] Night so you think rate will be stable once established or will it potentially float or have possibility of changing within hours or days?
1:26 PM [******] ****** thanks for your input hun
1:26 PM [Nighthk11] After 30 years in power- the people are still poor- the issues are almost identical for Iraq which has more wealth- So why then would the Iraqi people NOT be empowered to tak back their country?
1:27 PM [******] yw
1:27 PM [******] well Iraq is iraq ****** how much do you trust them
1:27 PM [******] well ******--not very much
1:27 PM [******] them getting all this done and getting along is the exception to the rule over there
1:27 PM [******] do you think it will last??
1:28 PM [******] maybe for a while , maybe not
1:28 PM [******] is just we won't have things set-up in advance because we are too cash poor right now to set anything up
1:28 PM [Nighthk11] I think that once they put the dinar out- It will initially be stable- with re-construction beginning in earnest and contracts being honored- It may drop a few cents or points- Then go back up until it reaches the ceiling they have set then remain there
1:28 PM [******] I am hoping there will be enough time to set things up the smart way once Rv hits...not have to rush rush things
1:29 PM [******] well I will cash in at the bank
1:29 PM [Nighthk11] But make no mistake and do not have any worry- They cannot move forward unless the dinar is on the market and it's value is stable
1:29 PM [******] then worry about buying gold or whatever
1:29 PM [******] I will pay the taxes on it then go from there
1:29 PM [******] then I won't have to be in a hurry to decide how to invest it
1:30 PM [******] I agree night
1:30 PM [Nighthk11] I am hoping that that happens this month and I see no reason given a deal being made to complete the gov't and the council- that this should not happen
1:30 PM [******] true---is just it is nice to have time to work with getting things set-up is all...
1:31 PM [******] you are a worryier
1:31 PM [Nighthk11] I think you will have both the time and help needed to accomplish what you want to do
1:31 PM [******]
1:31 PM [******] it will be a crazy crazy and highly emotional time for everyone
1:31 PM [******] oh dear just got an update from a business contact in oklahoma, they are going home to work. worried about roads already
1:31 PM [******] it is all good my friend breathe
1:31 PM [Nighthk11] BOA will help you with financial counselors
1:32 PM [******] Thank you Night for coming to this site and giving chats
1:32 PM [******] you are appeciated night
1:32 PM [******] that is true night--but we will be working with International Financial advisors
1:32 PM [Nighthk11] YW needed a home since I got kicked to the curb
1:32 PM [******] maybe not there but here you are
1:32 PM [******] there is a big crowd on that curb!
1:33 PM [******] Thanks nighthk, much appreciated!
1:33 PM [Nighthk11] Oh I see- then I would not worry about time- I think you will be just fine
1:33 PM [******] probably won't be cashing in at a bank except for money to pay off existing debt in the US--and perhaps having enough $$ set aside for living expenses for 6 months
1:33 PM [Nighthk11] Yes I see- and I think you will be just fine with your plans
1:35 PM [Nighthk11] I think the only place a time limit will apply will be inside Iraq as they want the large bills turned in
1:35 PM [Nighthk11] They don't want 30 million new millionares inside the country
1:35 PM [******] hubby and I are planning on relocating to New Zealand for retirement
1:35 PM [******] night did you say we might have 2 years?
1:36 PM [Nighthk11] Yes- 2 years- that is what Iraq has stated to recover all the large denoms
1:36 PM [******] we may amintain a second home in teh US...we may not
1:37 PM [Nighthk11] Our dinar will be turned in to the fed for holding in foreign currency reserves
1:37 PM [******] That may not apply to US citizens, or do you think, so?
1:37 PM [******] i do know this much. large international corporations with funding and good revenue are starting to look around at investments so they must know something is coming.
1:38 PM [******] up till now it has been hold the cash
1:38 PM [Nighthk11] US may set a "Time Limit" within our borders for the dinar but I can't see why
1:39 PM [******] we have most of the investment people we plan on working with chosen and have spoken with them etc.
1:39 PM [******] Unless they can get our dinar at a lower rate and allow it to appreciate over time in their own reserves
1:39 PM [******] ****** I don't really worry--so much as plan
1:40 PM [Nighthk11] The speed at which this is done will depend largely on the "Deal" made and the gov't formation so that Shabibi can act
2:30 PM [Nighthk11] The summit will Not take place in Baghdad- they ruined that too- another opportunity missed
1:02 PM [******]
1:03 PM [******] didn't we hear they met and had come to an agreement
1:03 PM [******] or was that in a rumor?
1:03 PM [******] I heard they met and had the second reading
1:03 PM [Nighthk11] If they did and came to a deal then we may see progress on gov't formation this week
1:04 PM [******] yes in parliament second reading on budget
1:04 PM [******] Oh Night..from your lips to God's ears!!
1:04 PM [******] that is what I heard night , hope it is true
1:04 PM [Nighthk11] While the budget is very important- It is not needed for an RV to occur
1:04 PM [******] I surely hope so
1:05 PM [Nighthk11] The funds to cover the RV have already been set aside
1:05 PM [******] no I heard there was an agreement night and I hope it is true
1:05 PM [******] http://dinarvets.doobla.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21498
1:05 PM [******] that also is very reassuring to hear Night
1:05 PM [Nighthk11] It only pertains to inside Iraq because Dinar we hold will be stored in the Fed Reserve
1:06 PM [******] true
1:06 PM [******] maliki, allawi reversed urgent resolutions to erbil
1:07 PM [Nighthk11] Sounds like they decided to "Change" the original agreement- If so, Then I think they made some sort of deal
1:07 PM [******] that is something hubby and I talked about , so we were saying there would be no reason to have a time limit on cash in here since it will not be going back to Iraq but staying here in the usa
1:07 PM [******] Nighthk11 my understanding the Fed will only get what goes thru banks..... traders goes back to Iraq
1:07 PM [******] Hello Nighthk11 ****** ****** ******. Great to see ****** and night here. I guess now we will have some ****** Nights in here.
1:07 PM [******]
1:07 PM [******] ty
1:07 PM [******] and some weather announcemnts
1:07 PM [Nighthk11] Correct ******- But US may set a "Time Limit"- I was told it may be within two years
1:08 PM [******] oh well that would be great
1:08 PM [******] thanks night i thought so too
1:08 PM [******] about the agreement
1:08 PM [Nighthk11] At any length- I would strongl;y suggest that the momenmt we know the dinar is international- Cash Out
1:09 PM [******] that is what i am doing Nighthk11 not holding any back
1:09 PM [******] I plan on cashing in most of mine asap
1:09 PM [Nighthk11] Because of the uncertainty of Iraq
1:09 PM [******] that sounds GREAT! from what that article says, it sounds as if the SFC ruling isn't going to stand Night as you had said it would not
1:09 PM [******] that is true
1:10 PM [******] I will make sure I have what I need to be good for the rest of my life asap
1:10 PM [******] but I am 60 so won't need to worry
1:11 PM [******] I need some time to set-up investment plans--foundation and trust accounts, etc. and get some precious metals investments going but other than the time required to do those things, I plan to be out of the dinars ASAp
1:11 PM [******] Good Morning/Afternoon all!!!
1:11 PM [******] gm
1:12 PM [******] Good afternoon *****
1:12 PM [Nighthk11] Now- I have always stated that the dinar will be over $1.00 and have been told they are demanding of the IMF to support the "Golden Dinar" which was over $3.00- I do NOT know if they can support that high a value
1:12 PM [******] ****** it is good to see you here
1:12 PM [******] g afternoon
1:12 PM [******]
1:12 PM [Nighthk11] But they are trying
1:12 PM [******] ty
1:12 PM [******] Nighthk11 do you have a specific idea on the rate?
1:13 PM [******] if it were to come in over $3.00 that would be wonderful as for my spouse and myself..this will constitute our retirement
1:13 PM [******] so you all remember groovgal
1:13 PM [Nighthk11] At this point I know it's over 10 cents so it will be just fine with what they finally come out with
1:13 PM [******] sure
1:13 PM [******] of course we remember GG
1:13 PM [******] ****** yes
1:13 PM [******] she always said they could sustand a 3+ rate
1:13 PM [Nighthk11] I am thinking around $3.10-3,30 no more than that - I could be WRONG
1:13 PM [******] if I am not mistaken
1:13 PM [******] yes she did
1:14 PM [******] yes, she did and explained why, ******
1:14 PM [******]
1:14 PM [******] I'm not sure if that post is still here
1:14 PM [******] Nighthk11 you are allowed ot be wrong in here
1:14 PM [******] oh absolutely
1:14 PM [Nighthk11] It is a strong possibility- That is why I say "Many will be surprised- But all will be satisfied"
1:14 PM [******] we all know any rates at this time are our own guess at what it could be
1:15 PM [******] don't worry about that---we all welcome all speculation
1:15 PM [******] ******, you look so cute in your party hat
1:15 PM [******] sorry - you are allowed to be wrong in here - wanted to clarify
1:15 PM [******] but I sure hope it does come in at 3 because there are alot of people that , it would really change their lives for the better
1:15 PM [******] and we welcome any factual info as well--but we won't hold you responsible Night if things change..after all. Iraq is..well Iraq
1:15 PM [******] rw why thank you kind sir!
1:15 PM [******] RW!!!!!!
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] The information related to me indicates that there have been some heated discussions among the Iraqi elite concerning this rate- Both Maliki and Allawi want this
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] But that does NOT mean the IMF will go along with this- we shall see
1:16 PM [******] ****** !!!
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] They both want the Golden Dinar- Over $3.00
1:16 PM [******] kels he said they both want it 3
1:17 PM [******] streaker preacher in the HOUSE!!!
1:17 PM [******] sorry night
1:17 PM [******] the imf and other countries need to be repaid by iraq so it can't be too low
1:17 PM [******]
1:17 PM [******] Nighthk11 i get it now... sorry about that
1:17 PM [******] that would be awesome
1:17 PM [******] yeah I would htink the IMF needs it higher more than lower
1:17 PM [******] but fear may keep it down
1:17 PM [******] although we have heard night that where the IMF is concerned that their primary concern is that whatever rate is used be easily sutainable by iraq's assets
1:17 PM [******] I"m happy with 50 cents
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Right now it is a matter of speculation because the information cannot be confirmed- But it has been discussed- so we will see
1:18 PM [******] Amen, bro
1:18 PM [******] i have always been a $2.50 lady myself
1:18 PM [******] as we all would kels
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Iraq does have the assets to support this rate
1:18 PM [******] And those assets are about to explode further
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Especially with the New found natujral gas deposits located
1:19 PM [******] that is what groovgal always said ,
1:19 PM [******] that is very reassuring Night
1:19 PM [******] i believe shabs will have a lot of input on the final rate alsol
1:19 PM [******] but is there any global currency that is supported by assets?
1:19 PM [******] nice pun kelsguy
1:19 PM [******] you also have to take into consideration that the ICI donar nations are not being able to give the alloted pledges initially negotiated because of the global economy ....so this also entails that iraq needs the higher rate for the recon projects on their plates to pay for this
1:19 PM [Nighthk11] along with New wells of oil located in the western desert between Iraq and Jordan
1:19 PM [******] ****** glad you caught that
1:20 PM [******] also mdb the euro needs support to strength and the world needs a higher rate for global financial recovery
1:20 PM [******] They just need a government that supports a good rate and a healthy economy
1:20 PM [******] ****** excellent point
1:20 PM [Nighthk11] If they do- then I would strongly suggest you cash out at the first opportunity when it hits the market
1:20 PM [******] ty *****
1:21 PM [Nighthk11] Yes ******- they can go nowhere without that
1:21 PM [******] the only reason I ask is that they can "pick" a value rather than having to support a value
1:21 PM [******] the me is a tenderbox right now
1:21 PM [******] yes its true.....i used to be in the camp of around the euro.....but now that ive had the opportunity to consult with many others and people who i trust and respect who do have legitimate contacts....I am now in the 3 camp
1:21 PM [******] Night do you feel that it may be critical to cash out in days..or would taking a few weeks to get structures in place be safe?
1:21 PM [******] I think the swiss money is backed with gold still
1:22 PM [Nighthk11] Yes and I can assure you that Iraq is paying attention- Egypt is NOT letting up
1:22 PM [******] but I understand that is the only one , am I correct?
1:22 PM [******] don't we have the greatest chats??????????
1:22 PM [******] ****** i like the way you talk!
1:22 PM [******] kels tytyty hehe
1:22 PM [Nighthk11] Correct ******- they make their money by being a bank for other countries and people
1:23 PM [******] ***** OUT!!! gotta meeting... bbl
1:23 PM [******] ttyl *****
1:23 PM [******] is this being copied?
1:23 PM [******] don't know ******
1:23 PM [******] k ty
1:23 PM [******] ****** is away it seems
1:24 PM [******] mk is probably working today
1:24 PM [******] I believe the President of Egypt step down today per Fox News
1:24 PM [******] really
1:24 PM [******] my concern is if we would safely have enough time to fly back and forth and get our financial ducks in a row---hopefully bartering dinars into gold etc..which would take some time If that were not a safe option: then we would need to cash out all in and then work on gold foundations and trusts etc over time
1:24 PM [******] ****** i saw on a private site the only day that the military will take over in egypt
1:25 PM [******] ok bbiab
1:25 PM [Nighthk11] Yes but according to some- He will never step down- Maliki better be watching
1:25 PM [******] that is what I heard night
1:25 PM [******] I think it was on npr radio
1:25 PM [******] that he would never step down
1:25 PM [******] ****** i would think we have 90 to 120 days.
1:26 PM [******] was someone on there that knew him talking
1:26 PM [******] Night so you think rate will be stable once established or will it potentially float or have possibility of changing within hours or days?
1:26 PM [******] ****** thanks for your input hun
1:26 PM [Nighthk11] After 30 years in power- the people are still poor- the issues are almost identical for Iraq which has more wealth- So why then would the Iraqi people NOT be empowered to tak back their country?
1:27 PM [******] yw
1:27 PM [******] well Iraq is iraq ****** how much do you trust them
1:27 PM [******] well ******--not very much
1:27 PM [******] them getting all this done and getting along is the exception to the rule over there
1:27 PM [******] do you think it will last??
1:28 PM [******] maybe for a while , maybe not
1:28 PM [******] is just we won't have things set-up in advance because we are too cash poor right now to set anything up
1:28 PM [Nighthk11] I think that once they put the dinar out- It will initially be stable- with re-construction beginning in earnest and contracts being honored- It may drop a few cents or points- Then go back up until it reaches the ceiling they have set then remain there
1:28 PM [******] I am hoping there will be enough time to set things up the smart way once Rv hits...not have to rush rush things
1:29 PM [******] well I will cash in at the bank
1:29 PM [Nighthk11] But make no mistake and do not have any worry- They cannot move forward unless the dinar is on the market and it's value is stable
1:29 PM [******] then worry about buying gold or whatever
1:29 PM [******] I will pay the taxes on it then go from there
1:29 PM [******] then I won't have to be in a hurry to decide how to invest it
1:30 PM [******] I agree night
1:30 PM [Nighthk11] I am hoping that that happens this month and I see no reason given a deal being made to complete the gov't and the council- that this should not happen
1:30 PM [******] true---is just it is nice to have time to work with getting things set-up is all...
1:31 PM [******] you are a worryier
1:31 PM [Nighthk11] I think you will have both the time and help needed to accomplish what you want to do
1:31 PM [******]
1:31 PM [******] it will be a crazy crazy and highly emotional time for everyone
1:31 PM [******] oh dear just got an update from a business contact in oklahoma, they are going home to work. worried about roads already
1:31 PM [******] it is all good my friend breathe
1:31 PM [Nighthk11] BOA will help you with financial counselors
1:32 PM [******] Thank you Night for coming to this site and giving chats
1:32 PM [******] you are appeciated night
1:32 PM [******] that is true night--but we will be working with International Financial advisors
1:32 PM [Nighthk11] YW needed a home since I got kicked to the curb
1:32 PM [******] maybe not there but here you are
1:32 PM [******] there is a big crowd on that curb!
1:33 PM [******] Thanks nighthk, much appreciated!
1:33 PM [Nighthk11] Oh I see- then I would not worry about time- I think you will be just fine
1:33 PM [******] probably won't be cashing in at a bank except for money to pay off existing debt in the US--and perhaps having enough $$ set aside for living expenses for 6 months
1:33 PM [Nighthk11] Yes I see- and I think you will be just fine with your plans
1:35 PM [Nighthk11] I think the only place a time limit will apply will be inside Iraq as they want the large bills turned in
1:35 PM [Nighthk11] They don't want 30 million new millionares inside the country
1:35 PM [******] hubby and I are planning on relocating to New Zealand for retirement
1:35 PM [******] night did you say we might have 2 years?
1:36 PM [Nighthk11] Yes- 2 years- that is what Iraq has stated to recover all the large denoms
1:36 PM [******] we may amintain a second home in teh US...we may not
1:37 PM [Nighthk11] Our dinar will be turned in to the fed for holding in foreign currency reserves
1:37 PM [******] That may not apply to US citizens, or do you think, so?
1:37 PM [******] i do know this much. large international corporations with funding and good revenue are starting to look around at investments so they must know something is coming.
1:38 PM [******] up till now it has been hold the cash
1:38 PM [Nighthk11] US may set a "Time Limit" within our borders for the dinar but I can't see why
1:39 PM [******] we have most of the investment people we plan on working with chosen and have spoken with them etc.
1:39 PM [******] Unless they can get our dinar at a lower rate and allow it to appreciate over time in their own reserves
1:39 PM [******] ****** I don't really worry--so much as plan
1:40 PM [Nighthk11] The speed at which this is done will depend largely on the "Deal" made and the gov't formation so that Shabibi can act
1:40 PM [******] I don't like making decision quickly "on the fly"
"
1:41 PM [******] my hubby si worse than I am
1:41 PM [******] he won't purchase anything without first considering all 15 options
1:41 PM [******] Night ( in your opinion ) how long could it take for the RV to happen?
1:42 PM [******] heya ER <hugs> been a long time!!
1:42 PM [******] hey ******
1:42 PM [******] ive been here...just lurking
1:42 PM [******] i dont come on as much
1:42 PM [******] ahh OK
1:43 PM [******] Night what time window..realistically--do you think we may be looking at before Rv actually happens....(we know this is not an easy question to answer--just wondering what your opinion is?)
1:44 PM [******] I know its can happen any second.....
1:44 PM [******] it
1:45 PM [******] but... i was just wondering how much longer they can really hold out
1:47 PM [******] would someone please post Night's chat when he is done I missed half of it Please please
1:48 PM [******] shorty--I hope someone has been recording it--****** is not here I do not think
1:48 PM [******] also night what is maliki currently doing about the security files?
1:48 PM [******] i'll wait in line.
1:48 PM [******]
1:02 PM [Nighthk11] Does anyonme know if Maliki and Allawi met and what the resulkts were yet?
1:02 PM [******]
1:03 PM [******] didn't we hear they met and had come to an agreement
1:03 PM [******] or was that in a rumor?
1:03 PM [******] I heard they met and had the second reading
1:03 PM [Nighthk11] If they did and came to a deal then we may see progress on gov't formation this week
1:04 PM [******] yes in parliament second reading on budget
1:04 PM [******] Oh Night..from your lips to God's ears!!
1:04 PM [******] that is what I heard night , hope it is true
1:04 PM [Nighthk11] While the budget is very important- It is not needed for an RV to occur
1:04 PM [******] I surely hope so
1:05 PM [Nighthk11] The funds to cover the RV have already been set aside
1:05 PM [******] no I heard there was an agreement night and I hope it is true
1:05 PM [******] http://dinarvets.doobla.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21498
1:05 PM [******] that also is very reassuring to hear Night
1:05 PM [Nighthk11] It only pertains to inside Iraq because Dinar we hold will be stored in the Fed Reserve
1:06 PM [******] true
1:06 PM [******] maliki, allawi reversed urgent resolutions to erbil
1:07 PM [Nighthk11] Sounds like they decided to "Change" the original agreement- If so, Then I think they made some sort of deal
1:07 PM [******] that is something hubby and I talked about , so we were saying there would be no reason to have a time limit on cash in here since it will not be going back to Iraq but staying here in the usa
1:07 PM [******] Nighthk11 my understanding the Fed will only get what goes thru banks..... traders goes back to Iraq
1:07 PM [******] Hello Nighthk11 ****** ****** ******. Great to see ****** and night here. I guess now we will have some ****** Nights in here.
1:07 PM [******]
1:07 PM [******] ty
1:07 PM [******] and some weather announcemnts
1:07 PM [Nighthk11] Correct ******- But US may set a "Time Limit"- I was told it may be within two years
1:08 PM [******] oh well that would be great
1:08 PM [******] thanks night i thought so too
1:08 PM [******] about the agreement
1:08 PM [Nighthk11] At any length- I would strongl;y suggest that the momenmt we know the dinar is international- Cash Out
1:09 PM [******] that is what i am doing Nighthk11 not holding any back
1:09 PM [******] I plan on cashing in most of mine asap
1:09 PM [Nighthk11] Because of the uncertainty of Iraq
1:09 PM [******] that sounds GREAT! from what that article says, it sounds as if the SFC ruling isn't going to stand Night as you had said it would not
1:09 PM [******] that is true
1:10 PM [******] I will make sure I have what I need to be good for the rest of my life asap
1:10 PM [******] but I am 60 so won't need to worry
1:11 PM [******] I need some time to set-up investment plans--foundation and trust accounts, etc. and get some precious metals investments going but other than the time required to do those things, I plan to be out of the dinars ASAp
1:11 PM [******] Good Morning/Afternoon all!!!
1:11 PM [******] gm
1:12 PM [******] Good afternoon *****
1:12 PM [Nighthk11] Now- I have always stated that the dinar will be over $1.00 and have been told they are demanding of the IMF to support the "Golden Dinar" which was over $3.00- I do NOT know if they can support that high a value
1:12 PM [******] ****** it is good to see you here
1:12 PM [******] g afternoon
1:12 PM [******]
1:12 PM [Nighthk11] But they are trying
1:12 PM [******] ty
1:12 PM [******] Nighthk11 do you have a specific idea on the rate?
1:13 PM [******] if it were to come in over $3.00 that would be wonderful as for my spouse and myself..this will constitute our retirement
1:13 PM [******] so you all remember groovgal
1:13 PM [Nighthk11] At this point I know it's over 10 cents so it will be just fine with what they finally come out with
1:13 PM [******] sure
1:13 PM [******] of course we remember GG
1:13 PM [******] ****** yes
1:13 PM [******] she always said they could sustand a 3+ rate
1:13 PM [Nighthk11] I am thinking around $3.10-3,30 no more than that - I could be WRONG
1:13 PM [******] if I am not mistaken
1:13 PM [******] yes she did
1:14 PM [******] yes, she did and explained why, ******
1:14 PM [******]
1:14 PM [******] I'm not sure if that post is still here
1:14 PM [******] Nighthk11 you are allowed ot be wrong in here
1:14 PM [******] oh absolutely
1:14 PM [Nighthk11] It is a strong possibility- That is why I say "Many will be surprised- But all will be satisfied"
1:14 PM [******] we all know any rates at this time are our own guess at what it could be
1:15 PM [******] don't worry about that---we all welcome all speculation
1:15 PM [******] ******, you look so cute in your party hat
1:15 PM [******] sorry - you are allowed to be wrong in here - wanted to clarify
1:15 PM [******] but I sure hope it does come in at 3 because there are alot of people that , it would really change their lives for the better
1:15 PM [******] and we welcome any factual info as well--but we won't hold you responsible Night if things change..after all. Iraq is..well Iraq
1:15 PM [******] rw why thank you kind sir!
1:15 PM [******] RW!!!!!!
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] The information related to me indicates that there have been some heated discussions among the Iraqi elite concerning this rate- Both Maliki and Allawi want this
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] But that does NOT mean the IMF will go along with this- we shall see
1:16 PM [******] ****** !!!
1:16 PM [Nighthk11] They both want the Golden Dinar- Over $3.00
1:16 PM [******] kels he said they both want it 3
1:17 PM [******] streaker preacher in the HOUSE!!!
1:17 PM [******] sorry night
1:17 PM [******] the imf and other countries need to be repaid by iraq so it can't be too low
1:17 PM [******]
1:17 PM [******] Nighthk11 i get it now... sorry about that
1:17 PM [******] that would be awesome
1:17 PM [******] yeah I would htink the IMF needs it higher more than lower
1:17 PM [******] but fear may keep it down
1:17 PM [******] although we have heard night that where the IMF is concerned that their primary concern is that whatever rate is used be easily sutainable by iraq's assets
1:17 PM [******] I"m happy with 50 cents
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Right now it is a matter of speculation because the information cannot be confirmed- But it has been discussed- so we will see
1:18 PM [******] Amen, bro
1:18 PM [******] i have always been a $2.50 lady myself
1:18 PM [******] as we all would kels
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Iraq does have the assets to support this rate
1:18 PM [******] And those assets are about to explode further
1:18 PM [Nighthk11] Especially with the New found natujral gas deposits located
1:19 PM [******] that is what groovgal always said ,
1:19 PM [******] that is very reassuring Night
1:19 PM [******] i believe shabs will have a lot of input on the final rate alsol
1:19 PM [******] but is there any global currency that is supported by assets?
1:19 PM [******] nice pun kelsguy
1:19 PM [******] you also have to take into consideration that the ICI donar nations are not being able to give the alloted pledges initially negotiated because of the global economy ....so this also entails that iraq needs the higher rate for the recon projects on their plates to pay for this
1:19 PM [Nighthk11] along with New wells of oil located in the western desert between Iraq and Jordan
1:19 PM [******] ****** glad you caught that
1:20 PM [******] also mdb the euro needs support to strength and the world needs a higher rate for global financial recovery
1:20 PM [******] They just need a government that supports a good rate and a healthy economy
1:20 PM [******] ****** excellent point
1:20 PM [Nighthk11] If they do- then I would strongly suggest you cash out at the first opportunity when it hits the market
1:20 PM [******] ty *****
1:21 PM [Nighthk11] Yes ******- they can go nowhere without that
1:21 PM [******] the only reason I ask is that they can "pick" a value rather than having to support a value
1:21 PM [******] the me is a tenderbox right now
1:21 PM [******] yes its true.....i used to be in the camp of around the euro.....but now that ive had the opportunity to consult with many others and people who i trust and respect who do have legitimate contacts....I am now in the 3 camp
1:21 PM [******] Night do you feel that it may be critical to cash out in days..or would taking a few weeks to get structures in place be safe?
1:21 PM [******] I think the swiss money is backed with gold still
1:22 PM [Nighthk11] Yes and I can assure you that Iraq is paying attention- Egypt is NOT letting up
1:22 PM [******] but I understand that is the only one , am I correct?
1:22 PM [******] don't we have the greatest chats??????????
1:22 PM [******] ****** i like the way you talk!
1:22 PM [******] kels tytyty hehe
1:22 PM [Nighthk11] Correct ******- they make their money by being a bank for other countries and people
1:23 PM [******] ***** OUT!!! gotta meeting... bbl
1:23 PM [******] ttyl *****
1:23 PM [******] is this being copied?
1:23 PM [******] don't know ******
1:23 PM [******] k ty
1:23 PM [******] ****** is away it seems
1:24 PM [******] mk is probably working today
1:24 PM [******] I believe the President of Egypt step down today per Fox News
1:24 PM [******] really
1:24 PM [******] my concern is if we would safely have enough time to fly back and forth and get our financial ducks in a row---hopefully bartering dinars into gold etc..which would take some time If that were not a safe option: then we would need to cash out all in and then work on gold foundations and trusts etc over time
1:24 PM [******] ****** i saw on a private site the only day that the military will take over in egypt
1:25 PM [******] ok bbiab
1:25 PM [Nighthk11] Yes but according to some- He will never step down- Maliki better be watching
1:25 PM [******] that is what I heard night
1:25 PM [******] I think it was on npr radio
1:25 PM [******] that he would never step down
1:25 PM [******] ****** i would think we have 90 to 120 days.
1:26 PM [******] was someone on there that knew him talking
1:26 PM [******] Night so you think rate will be stable once established or will it potentially float or have possibility of changing within hours or days?
1:26 PM [******] ****** thanks for your input hun
1:26 PM [Nighthk11] After 30 years in power- the people are still poor- the issues are almost identical for Iraq which has more wealth- So why then would the Iraqi people NOT be empowered to tak back their country?
1:27 PM [******] yw
1:27 PM [******] well Iraq is iraq ****** how much do you trust them
1:27 PM [******] well ******--not very much
1:27 PM [******] them getting all this done and getting along is the exception to the rule over there
1:27 PM [******] do you think it will last??
1:28 PM [******] maybe for a while , maybe not
1:28 PM [******] is just we won't have things set-up in advance because we are too cash poor right now to set anything up
1:28 PM [Nighthk11] I think that once they put the dinar out- It will initially be stable- with re-construction beginning in earnest and contracts being honored- It may drop a few cents or points- Then go back up until it reaches the ceiling they have set then remain there
1:28 PM [******] I am hoping there will be enough time to set things up the smart way once Rv hits...not have to rush rush things
1:29 PM [******] well I will cash in at the bank
1:29 PM [Nighthk11] But make no mistake and do not have any worry- They cannot move forward unless the dinar is on the market and it's value is stable
1:29 PM [******] then worry about buying gold or whatever
1:29 PM [******] I will pay the taxes on it then go from there
1:29 PM [******] then I won't have to be in a hurry to decide how to invest it
1:30 PM [******] I agree night
1:30 PM [Nighthk11] I am hoping that that happens this month and I see no reason given a deal being made to complete the gov't and the council- that this should not happen
1:30 PM [******] true---is just it is nice to have time to work with getting things set-up is all...
1:31 PM [******] you are a worryier
1:31 PM [Nighthk11] I think you will have both the time and help needed to accomplish what you want to do
1:31 PM [******]
1:31 PM [******] it will be a crazy crazy and highly emotional time for everyone
1:31 PM [******] oh dear just got an update from a business contact in oklahoma, they are going home to work. worried about roads already
1:31 PM [******] it is all good my friend breathe
1:31 PM [Nighthk11] BOA will help you with financial counselors
1:32 PM [******] Thank you Night for coming to this site and giving chats
1:32 PM [******] you are appeciated night
1:32 PM [******] that is true night--but we will be working with International Financial advisors
1:32 PM [Nighthk11] YW needed a home since I got kicked to the curb
1:32 PM [******] maybe not there but here you are
1:32 PM [******] there is a big crowd on that curb!
1:33 PM [******] Thanks nighthk, much appreciated!
1:33 PM [Nighthk11] Oh I see- then I would not worry about time- I think you will be just fine
1:33 PM [******] probably won't be cashing in at a bank except for money to pay off existing debt in the US--and perhaps having enough $$ set aside for living expenses for 6 months
1:33 PM [Nighthk11] Yes I see- and I think you will be just fine with your plans
1:35 PM [Nighthk11] I think the only place a time limit will apply will be inside Iraq as they want the large bills turned in
1:35 PM [Nighthk11] They don't want 30 million new millionares inside the country
1:35 PM [******] hubby and I are planning on relocating to New Zealand for retirement
1:35 PM [******] night did you say we might have 2 years?
1:36 PM [Nighthk11] Yes- 2 years- that is what Iraq has stated to recover all the large denoms
1:36 PM [******] we may amintain a second home in teh US...we may not
1:37 PM [Nighthk11] Our dinar will be turned in to the fed for holding in foreign currency reserves
1:37 PM [******] That may not apply to US citizens, or do you think, so?
1:37 PM [******] i do know this much. large international corporations with funding and good revenue are starting to look around at investments so they must know something is coming.
1:38 PM [******] up till now it has been hold the cash
1:38 PM [Nighthk11] US may set a "Time Limit" within our borders for the dinar but I can't see why
1:39 PM [******] we have most of the investment people we plan on working with chosen and have spoken with them etc.
1:39 PM [******] Unless they can get our dinar at a lower rate and allow it to appreciate over time in their own reserves
1:39 PM [******] ****** I don't really worry--so much as plan
1:40 PM [Nighthk11] The speed at which this is done will depend largely on the "Deal" made and the gov't formation so that Shabibi can act
2:30 PM [Nighthk11] The summit will Not take place in Baghdad- they ruined that too- another opportunity missed
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